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« on: August 04, 2008, 02:53:49 PM »

Here is the topic to talk about Cryptids, Ghosts, and Martians.

Here is something interesting I found. Disscuss.
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/video/17062215/index.html
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2008, 04:47:06 PM »

Stuff doesn't decompose that fast. Someone claims to have taken that picture on their digital camera, and now all that's left is a pile of bones? Either the photographer or the lifeguard is lying.
For the record, I don't believe in Martians. However, I do believe in aliens and extraterrestrials.
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2008, 05:02:26 PM »

The photo was actually taken late in July. It has a Wiki article already. Shocked
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2008, 05:30:32 PM »

Not only does that woman have a really annoying voice, this is completely bogus. A couple points:

  • Torg, stuff can and does decompose that fast. A body that size would be decomposed within a week. I do agree that the lifeguard is probably lying, though.
  • That part about it being from the disease research site makes sense. I've heard of scientists who have reverse engineered chicken embryos with teeth. It seems to me that this could be the result of a similar process, just with a larger bird.
  • I agree that there is probably extraterrestrial life. The universe, if science is to be believed (and it is), is unimaginably massive. With all those other stars and other worlds, what are the odds that ours is the only one that supports life?
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2008, 02:31:36 AM »

I think I may have said this before on the forums but. Yes, I do believe in aliens. But, I don't think they they are super advanced. What makes humans so stupid? I bet that aliens do have wars (if they are intelligent enough). Aliens would have the same problems we do. They probably even look just like simians too.
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2008, 10:37:00 AM »

I think I may have said this before on the forums but. Yes, I do believe in aliens. But, I don't think they they are super advanced. What makes humans so stupid? I bet that aliens do have wars (if they are intelligent enough). Aliens would have the same problems we do. They probably even look just like simians too.
Even Earth life is mostly different from simians. What makes you think life from other planets will look like us, aside from ego?
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2008, 08:16:09 PM »

They will have evolved to fit the same niches we had to fill.
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2008, 08:47:25 PM »

But what if their niches weren't the same as ours? Surely, we evolved the way we did partly because of the way our planet is. They could have had to adapt to any number of different conditions, for example; moving more freely in a more constricting environment than ours, thus taking on liquid forms.
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2008, 09:38:37 PM »

Or evolving to be icthyoid on an aquatic planet, or having greater strength and endurance on a planet with higher gravity, or blah blah blah. We are not the ultimate eventuality. Odds are, if there is life out there, and I believe there is, it doesn't look like us.
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2008, 09:52:43 PM »

I hope it doesn't. That'd be... a letdown, to say the least.
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2008, 10:42:11 PM »

Yeah, I've had to live with all of humanity's ugly mugs for far too long. I want to live with the universe's multitude of varied ugly mugs, too.
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2008, 02:44:20 AM »

1) WOW! The CNN logo was so believable and not pixellated at all!

2) Silf, how do you know what size it was? There was no scale item in the picture. That said, a human body enters the butyric fermentation stage 10 to 20 days after death, which means that it's possible the thing could have decayed that much in such a time period.

3) A life-form would evolve to to "fit the same niches we had to fill" only on a planet that was exactly like ours. On a planet with ammonia oceans, an anthropomorphic being would be unlikely to eventuate.
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2008, 10:52:09 AM »

Possible let down, Boyos.
And with that, let's shift away from Monty and talk about my nemesis of Cryptids, Moth Man. He scares the butt out of me and is found not far away from where I live.
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2008, 01:53:33 PM »

OoO Not real? No wai!

Also, I have but one thing to say to Moth Man: wingspan. Wingspan. Wingspan wingspan wingspan. WINGSPAN! Wingspan!

You can't [expletive] with aerodynamics and flight ratios. Don't get me wrong: if a 'cryptid' did turn out to be real, I might well have a biologygasm, but you can't just make stuff up. The propogators of these urban legends never do their research.
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2008, 02:47:47 PM »

There are many theories that the moth man is not of earthly origin. That could explain the weird physics of it's flight.
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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2008, 08:49:07 PM »

Uhh... No. That would only work if he was ON a low-gravity planet, not just FROM one; otherwise, he still has to have enough muscle and wingspan to lift him. There are twelve-pound birds with seven-foot wingspans; the same wouldn't even work for an eighty-pound hominid, much less one the size of moth man. Besides, the anthropoid form just isn't an aerodynamic one.
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2008, 08:59:52 PM »

Besides, otherworldlyness wouldn't be enough to change the laws of physics.
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2008, 11:11:46 PM »

No, I was thinking of non-natural means of flight. Jetpacks anyone?
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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2008, 12:33:40 AM »

I thought we had agreed that extraterrestrials aren't going to look like us.
And jetpacks are likely to break the wings if they go at anything approaching 100 miles per hour.
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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2008, 02:07:41 AM »

A jetpack seems unlikely, but there's no good way to rebut it. Nothing's to say someone couldn't have developed a very quiet jetpack; it just doesn't seem to mesh well with the story.

Plus, just because the odds are astronomically against it, doesn't mean it's impossible for xenohominid life to have developed. Still, there's absosmurfly nothing compelling going for the story.
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« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2008, 10:15:03 AM »

I just find the mothman scary as hell, plus his location being not far from mine. There was a cool movie about it too.
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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2008, 10:54:10 AM »

Mothra Vs. Godzilla doesn't count.
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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2008, 01:25:25 PM »

I'm talking about The Mothman Prophecies.
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« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2008, 05:03:12 PM »

Sounds like some cheesy "action-adventure"/"sci-fi" B-movie. Accurate?
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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2008, 05:12:17 PM »

More like a crime drama/thriller. Really good. B-movie yes but it is a good B-movie.
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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2008, 11:24:32 PM »

Has MST3K done an episode on it?
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« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2008, 09:56:24 AM »

It came out in 2002. You know what, here is the wiki page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mothman_Prophecies_%28film%29
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« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2008, 12:22:40 PM »

I like that movie, it was well done.  It always freaked me out whenever they showed a glimpse of the Mothman, especially with the flashbacks for the people who saw him.
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« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2008, 04:36:50 AM »

Well, we all know the kind of things you like, NinjaBob.
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« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2008, 09:49:23 AM »

NEVER MENTION THAT AGAIN!
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